In Conversation With: Romeo Void's Debora Iyall
Ahead of the band releasing 'Live 81-85' for RSD, the Romeo Void frontwoman stops by to talk about art, Bands Reunited, and why they balked at being called 'rock stars.'
Good morning!
Ahead of the release of their Live 81-85 album for Record Store Day, we’re talking with Romeo Void frontwoman Debora Iyall.
MTV may have launched with a hit that declared “Video Killed the Radio Star,” but for Romeo Void, that line turned out to be uncomfortably prophetic. The San Francisco band had everything going for it: sharp songwriting, frontwoman Deborah Iyall’s fierce presence, Benjamin Bossi’s weapons-grade sax cutting through everything, and a rhythm section consistently in the pocket.
Never Say Never became their calling card, with its now‑famous provocation(s) and razor-sharp groove setting them apart from the safer side of early‑’80s radio and putting them on the map. “A Girl In Trouble (Is A Temporary Thing”) also saw significant radio play.
“Live ’81-’85 captures that sweet spot after the record is made where you tour until the songs come out of you like a gorgeous martial arts drill and you wish you could go back and record them all over again. Debora Iyall’s vocals are so confident and commanding. She is one of those singers who make me wonder how much less myself I would be if they hadn’t been there.”
~Neko Case
Anytime I talk with other fans, two points invariably emerge: Their three studio LPS are must-haves, and seeing them live was an experience not to be missed (or ever forgotten). On stage, the band turned those elements mentioned above into something electric — part performance art, part pure concert energy — a well-controlled chaos. With a little effort, the records are easy enough to find, but reliving the live experience hasn’t been… until now.
For Record Store Day on April 18th, Liberation Hall will issue Live ’81–’85, a double LP of previously unreleased concert recordings that capture Romeo Void at full voltage. This is the second live album from the group, following 2023’s Live from Mabuhay Gardens, which Billboard praised as “one of the most inventive bands of the new wave/post‑punk era.”
Recorded in Ann Arbor, Albany, London, and Berlin, the new 17‑track set covers all three studio albums — It’s a Condition (1981), Benefactor (1982), and Instincts (1984) — with songs like Never Say Never, A Girl in Trouble, Flash Flood, Chinatown, and In the Dark showing how consistent and daring the band remained throughout their run. Live ’81–’85 doesn’t just do a rote revisit of their catalog or “play the hits,” as it were. It reminds listeners of the artistry—and intensity—that made Romeo Void so great in the first place.
Live ‘81-85 will be out this Saturday (4/18). You can grab a copy at your fave local shop, or head here to get it via Bandcamp. Spoiler alert: It’s awesome.
I recently caught up with Deborah Iyall to reflect on the band’s legacy and this RSD release. It’s only been lightly edited for grammar (mine) and flow.
Congrats on the new record! Can you walk us through how this latest project came together?
During lockdown, my husband, Patrick Haight, who is an audio engineer, embraced the idea of a live record compiled from the Romeo Void cassette tapes that our live sound engineer, Louie Beeson, had recorded. Larry Carter, one of our drummers, had a bunch of those tapes from Louie which he sent to us to make digital files. I had a few also. Patrick probably mastered about 15 or more, and then listened to them to compare technical quality. He eventually gave seven or eight to me and Frank (Zincavage) to go through to choose the best tracks for a live record. Frank also had some of these cassettes and he sent them to Patrick to master as well.
In 2023, Liberation Hall put out a live album from our very early days at the Mabuhay Gardens. That record had significant success among collectors, and we thought it would be a good idea to pull together a follow-up. Live from the Mabuhay Gardens didn’t have the benefit of having either of our most successful songs on it — “A Girl in Trouble (Is a Temporary Thing),” “Never Say Never” — as it was very early stage Romeo Void. We were confident from listening to the tapes that as a live band we had contributed music that was a good example of the artform and our times.
In today’s music landscape—streaming, social media, etc.—do you think Romeo Void would have come up differently?
Certainly, it would’ve been vastly different, as the way to our successes was always from garnering an enthusiastic audience through our live shows.
Romeo Void was known for being a powerful live band. What did you try to capture on stage that the studio couldn’t?
The spontaneity of the moment was something that Benjamin (Bossi) and I as the front people were trying to capture. Improvisation was a skill Benjamin brought to the band—it required trust in ourselves, the moment, and in the crowd to combust. The audience gave us energy, and me courage, and so we showed up with a willingness to let go and ride the vibe of the crowd. Touring reinforced that. You live for the show, not for the gas station stops or the scenery. The studio environment is where you are crafting the song. A certain amount of that happens in rehearsals before you record but more options seem to open to get thrilling sounds onto tape in the studio.
Bands Reunited put you back on a lot of people’s radar—and introduced you to new fans. Who did the show contact first to get things started? Any behind-the-scenes memories viewers didn’t get to see?
I never thought about that. I’m pretty sure that they hadn’t talked to Frank or Benjamin before they talked to me. It makes sense. I was living just outside of LA, a couple of hours away in Twentynine Palms. They were cagey about what they were up to. I thought a person, a producer perhaps, was going to come and have a conversation with me. Maybe we’d have lunch? I thought they were considering the idea of featuring us, and it wasn’t a done deal at all. That’s why I was so surprised when I saw the crew and cameras. Yikes. I mean I had put on a little makeup and wore something I felt good in, but I had no idea I would be filmed.
The shows documented here are fantastic. Were there any other nights that stand out—those moments when everything clicked and you completely tore the roof off the place?
Yes. And unfortunately, there were some other shows that just for technical reasons had great performances, but we couldn’t use. There were also shows where the cassette tape ran out at a very un-opportune moment. One I will never forget was in a big airplane hangar-type building just south of Seattle. It was New Year’s Eve, maybe 1983, and it had started snowing when the doors opened and yet people kept arriving. The place was packed. We were feeling and sounding our best. The Seattle crowds were always amazing. I felt our sound fill the room, and though it was drafty and I’d been wearing a coat all night, by the end I was a happy and satisfied sweaty mess.
Double clicking on that, were there moments in these recordings that surprised you when you heard them again years later?
Yes! Peter Woods’ background vocals are sublime. I’d often share a monitor with Benjamin, so I hardly ever heard Peter through the monitors. Seriously, hearing the entire rhythm section distinctly on these recordings was a revelation to me. After listening to all these concerts, I was even more grateful to have such an outstanding band. I was learning as I went, I was the least musically literate member. I can now truly appreciate the work ethic it took for us to create our unique sound.
For new listeners—or those rediscovering the band—what do you hope they take away from the record?
There was a time when bands were trying to make art as a unit. We each had our own varied influences, but we wanted to create art. We wanted to be original, and take risks. No one who was a musician at that time would ever want to be called a “rock star.” It was kind of a slur in some ways to us. Just like the words “diva” and “bitch” have changed meaning over the years. We thought it was cool to be on college radio, on those shows that came on after midnight.
What’s next for you and/or the band?
For the remaining founding members of band, this is our legacy. Losing Larry Carter, Benjamin Bossi and Louie Beeson motivated us to get this project underway, and to hopefully have their brilliance be recognized to a greater degree.
Last one, just for fun: I bump into you leaving a record store. What records are you carrying?
Hehehe. The Gossip, Neko Case, and Shannon Shaw.
What are your memories of Romeo Void? Where were you when you first heard them? Were you one of the lucky ones that saw them live? Share your thoughts below!
Thank you again to Debora Iyall for her time, and thank you for being here.
Kevin—
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Wow! Graham Parker and now Deborah Iyall? You are on a roll! Now I’m waiting for the Geddy Lee interview! The trifecta of artists who’ve largely influenced my musical tastes!;)
Deborah is an icon!
My very first memories of MTV are Never Say Never. Years before I learned the tenor sax thy showed me how cool it was in post punk. Girl In Trouble is my favorite from them.