Love the Pine Street. But, I will always be a Starry Night fan. The AC on in the winter, the heat on in the summer, expensive beer, and the way you could get the balcony to sway to the music... What's not to love?
Someday, when you get a chance to listen to Operation mind crime in its entirety, I'd love to hear your feedback. I always found the album to be so much more than just a, metal album. The darkness and bitterness of the story and the complexity of the music was spot on for that time in my life.
And as for pancakes or waffles, the correct answer is either will do. Because apparently drinking maple syrup out of the bottle is frowned upon.
Wait, you've never heard Operation: mindcrime? It's actually... cool, though it's no 2112 (hee hee). That said, What's Going On, The Wall or Wee Small Hours are my go to concept albums.
I really like the wall, but I think it was so overplayed and I was expected to like it when I was younger that I kind of put a mental block on it. Now that I'm older, much much older, I need to go back and revisit most of my Pink Floyd.
In 1985 I wore the grooves OUT of my 45 rpm for the song "20/20." I thought I was the only person in the world who even knew that song. Maybe I need to check out the album.
The Nightfly is good, although I like a few Steely Dan albums better... but they're probably not concept albums. I like that theme, though. I think my fave is Subhumans: From the Cradle to the Grave, but there are some other really good ones I enjoy. Control by JJ is a great callout.
Wait, wait, wait! "I think kids benefit from learning about various musical styles and the art of songwriting." So, wouldn't you start with Classical, then maybe some jazz, blues, American Songbook, folk, calypso, gospel...? It's not a coincidence that most of the great rock composers had classical training or came from blues or folk backgrounds. Aretha came from Gospel. Even if the kids are never going to be musicians, hearing a broad range of stuff early on makes all the difference in what they can enjoy later on in life. Neurologists have found that children raised in environments lacking certain colors or certain kinds of sounds literally lose the ability to see those colors or hear those sounds--the neural connections just go away. Scary thought, actually!
This research was originally spurred by attempts to understand what happens to brain development in children living in extremely impoverished circumstances. It's now been extended to looking at more general environmental/cultural differences. It is quite possible that the dominance of formula-driven songwriting is creating a self-fulfilling spiral in which audiences tastes become standardized, leading to even less originality in songwriting, and so on. AI is almost certainly going to accelerate this process.
I have a Calexico bootleg from the Satyricon that is fantastic. I read about the club after I got it and it sounds like it was pretty, um, legendary? ;-)
What a fun read and thanks for answering so many questions! Tons of good info on here. I love what you said about Aretha and the church. So true. I'm very familiar with her discography, so if the reader who asked that question would like some Aretha album titles suitable for 10-year-olds, "Lady Soul", "Aretha Now" and "This Girl's In Love With You" come to mind (apart from her blockbuster "I Never Loved a Man The Way I Love You"). Basically anything from the 60s and very early 70s is a safe bet. Around 1972-1973 and in the 80s, her lyrics and song choices got a bit more... ahem... racy, shall we say 🤣 So probably best to avoid those until the kids are a bit older 😉
I appreciate the Byrds- my father got me into them when I was a kid.
Fun read -- thanks for taking my question! Also, TIL: "cruciverbalist." Great word that feels like a Decemberists album title. ;-)
Lol. Right?!
Love the Pine Street. But, I will always be a Starry Night fan. The AC on in the winter, the heat on in the summer, expensive beer, and the way you could get the balcony to sway to the music... What's not to love?
Someday, when you get a chance to listen to Operation mind crime in its entirety, I'd love to hear your feedback. I always found the album to be so much more than just a, metal album. The darkness and bitterness of the story and the complexity of the music was spot on for that time in my life.
And as for pancakes or waffles, the correct answer is either will do. Because apparently drinking maple syrup out of the bottle is frowned upon.
I'll definitely give it a spin!
Mule!
Nice Q&A.
Wait, you've never heard Operation: mindcrime? It's actually... cool, though it's no 2112 (hee hee). That said, What's Going On, The Wall or Wee Small Hours are my go to concept albums.
I really like the wall, but I think it was so overplayed and I was expected to like it when I was younger that I kind of put a mental block on it. Now that I'm older, much much older, I need to go back and revisit most of my Pink Floyd.
I haven't! Maybe a song or two?
Wee Small Hours is a great concept album!
I had to break out the googler = cruciverbalist.
Ahhh, now it all makes sense : )
In 1985 I wore the grooves OUT of my 45 rpm for the song "20/20." I thought I was the only person in the world who even knew that song. Maybe I need to check out the album.
If you like the (relatively) pop sound of 20/20 versus Benson's earlier/jazzier work, you'll like the record.
The Nightfly is good, although I like a few Steely Dan albums better... but they're probably not concept albums. I like that theme, though. I think my fave is Subhumans: From the Cradle to the Grave, but there are some other really good ones I enjoy. Control by JJ is a great callout.
Wait, wait, wait! "I think kids benefit from learning about various musical styles and the art of songwriting." So, wouldn't you start with Classical, then maybe some jazz, blues, American Songbook, folk, calypso, gospel...? It's not a coincidence that most of the great rock composers had classical training or came from blues or folk backgrounds. Aretha came from Gospel. Even if the kids are never going to be musicians, hearing a broad range of stuff early on makes all the difference in what they can enjoy later on in life. Neurologists have found that children raised in environments lacking certain colors or certain kinds of sounds literally lose the ability to see those colors or hear those sounds--the neural connections just go away. Scary thought, actually!
That is scary!
This research was originally spurred by attempts to understand what happens to brain development in children living in extremely impoverished circumstances. It's now been extended to looking at more general environmental/cultural differences. It is quite possible that the dominance of formula-driven songwriting is creating a self-fulfilling spiral in which audiences tastes become standardized, leading to even less originality in songwriting, and so on. AI is almost certainly going to accelerate this process.
Great questions. Better answers :)
Thank you!
Obviously pancakes.
Always.
I saw PIL at Pine Street back in 1984. Loudest show I ever went to.
Why isn't Satyricon on your favorite venues? If it isn't I think I understand why.
I have a Calexico bootleg from the Satyricon that is fantastic. I read about the club after I got it and it sounds like it was pretty, um, legendary? ;-)
The club definitely has a colorful history.
Most of that is simply down to the shows I went to. So many were either at Pine Street or Xray vs. anywhere else.
What a fun read and thanks for answering so many questions! Tons of good info on here. I love what you said about Aretha and the church. So true. I'm very familiar with her discography, so if the reader who asked that question would like some Aretha album titles suitable for 10-year-olds, "Lady Soul", "Aretha Now" and "This Girl's In Love With You" come to mind (apart from her blockbuster "I Never Loved a Man The Way I Love You"). Basically anything from the 60s and very early 70s is a safe bet. Around 1972-1973 and in the 80s, her lyrics and song choices got a bit more... ahem... racy, shall we say 🤣 So probably best to avoid those until the kids are a bit older 😉